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Un-Official Gathering Summary 
Tamarack Flowage – July 1, 2008   9 a.m. at Site
Terry Cummings, Water Management Engineer
Wisconsin DNR – Rhn Service Center
107 Sutliff Ave  Rhinelander WI 54501
Tel 365-8938  Fax: 365-8932

Present: Terry Cummings, James Hedberg, Tom Christofferson, Karen
Christofferson, Connie Scherf, Bill Green, Joanie Green, Jim
Hessenauer, Ann Hessenauer, Jim Luft, Richard Ruffalo, Larry McCarthy,
Jeri McCarthy, Ed Bliss, Karen Bliss, George Bright,  Thomas
Jendrzenjak, Bob Pohlman and Les T. Steiner. 

Inspection was made and discussion along with presentations by
long-time property owners at both the culvert site and the site of the
old washed out dam.  It was stated by more than three persons, that
the Town of Conover put in the present culvert during the 1940’s
(thought to be 1946) during time that Carl Engelbrecht was chairman. 
Steiner has pictures of a town roadman with Chic Federer pushing down
the hillsides to block the flow and level the area of the washout. 
Less Steiner stated that two factions proposed the place to put the
spillway.  The present location was that of the Johnson family and a
rock dam originally went in there and over the years, a struggle
ensued to leave the rock dam there or remove it.  The logs were
floated down the creek to the Wisconsin River.  The original road that
now dog legs at Steiner’s property, originally went through the
properties of Christofferson, Hessenauer, Bliss etc.  The culvert was
put in by the rock dam to cross to the other properties which were on
Baker Lake Road.  

According to Cummings, an engineered dam starts at around $40,000 and
then there must be engineering studies and flood impact studies
putting the cost up much, much higher.  When first talking of the town
not having anything to do with this, it was thought that the culvert
was put in as part of the original second dam.  It appears to me that
the 2nd dam or spillway in the current location was the un-permitted
dam and then the town went ahead and put in a culvert.  Jim Luft spoke
of times that the spillway rock dam was torn out and then put back in.
 The Christoffersons and Steiner stated that big hills in the area
South of Lenz were cut down to almost level ground to fill in the
washed out original permitted dam.  
There are instances of permits for an elevated culvert – this is
considered a dam by the DNR but permits can be obtained.  Estimated
fee around $500 and then a study of the flood impact down stream would
be made so that a hazard rating can be put in place.  Floodplain
zoning would also impact few as the state and county are the property
owners down stream.  

It was suggested that a petition be made to encourage the town to
replace their culvert (due to sagging middle and hazard) and by doing
so with a culvert, impact little on the taxpayers but at the same
time, to meet the standards of the DNR and state, having to go through
the permit process and work with the DNR in meeting their specs. 
According to Hedberg, being that the road is a town road now and that
the culvert at the time of placement was considered only a culvert
(not a dam), the town should be able to receive its normal culvert aid
(50%) from the Vilas County.  A consensus of the persons there agreed
that this would be the only logical route to take.  Hedberg stated
that he would provide names and addresses of all those person impacted
by the water providing recreational facilities and a county boat
landing on the area.  The area is fed by Baker Lake, Spring Lake along
with a creek from Marshall Lake.  

With the petition of names of affected property owners, it is
requested that the DNR and Mr. Cummings present as much data and
information regarding the processes discussed above with the Town
Board at its regular monthly meeting on August 7th at which time, all
can be made aware of such actions and decisions.  

Summarized by Clerk
James M. Hedberg

Archive of Past Meeting Minutes

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  • May 1, 2008 May Board Meeting
  • April 8, 2008 April 8 Annual Meeting
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  • May 23, 2007 Special Road Bid Meeting
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